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Hi there, good awesome news! Watched some horror movies during Easter holidays and just made a pretty funny and amazing discovery! Flake took samples out of the famous horror film cl

DuduMil

Hi! I've made some discoveries in G-Force M-Tron Pro: So, I've made an error on the Mein Teil strings, they're actually like this: Layer A: MKII Violins https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FZDJ

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2 minutes ago, mustang29 said:

So it means there is a sample on the pré-chorus is made with emax?

 

and the loop is made with and orgel on eps16

It seems that the orgel was used in the DER WANSEN part, maybe discarted.

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Il y a 1 heure, DuduMil a dit :

Sounds very close, but I do not think it is that one because they surely used an E-MU Emax in studio, as we can see in the Cubase arrangement of Riecher in the documentary "ACHTUNG! WIR KOMMEN".
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Damn! Good and clean screenshot!

 

Drums - Alesis D4 
Bass - Ensoniq EPS16
Breaks 1 - 3 - Emax
Sequence Low - Ensoniq EPS16
Sequence High - Ensoniq EPS16
Orgel (Organ) - Ensoniq EPS16
Strings - Ensoniq EPS16
Sample? - Ensoniq EPS16
Track 8 - Emax

 

Okay, let's compare Der Riecher and check EPS16 and Emax libraries

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1 hour ago, Hokkaido said:

 

Damn! Good and clean screenshot!

 

Drums - Alesis D4 
Bass - Ensoniq EPS16
Breaks 1 - 3 - Emax
Sequence Low - Ensoniq EPS16
Sequence High - Ensoniq EPS16
Orgel (Organ) - Ensoniq EPS16
Strings - Ensoniq EPS16
Sample? - Ensoniq EPS16
Track 8 - Emax

 

Okay, let's compare Der Riecher and check EPS16 and Emax libraries

By analysing the arrange, this is my theory:

 

Bass - of course, the bass lead.

The breaks 1 and 3 are muted, only the 2 is triggered, and it seems that it is some kind of percussion, cause I am sure the track is called "breakbeat"

Seq Lo - it seems this is the sequence that kinda sounds like the dog breathing in the background.

Seq Hi - the standard DRSG lead we all know

Orgel - Organ supporting the DRSG lead?

Strings - the keyboard violins solo

Sample - I think that these might be "Der Wansen" or "Ich finde dich" samples, or maybe it's the choir, because it enters the same time as the track.

Track 8 - No idea, but it is muted anyways.

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il y a 2 minutes, DuduMil a dit :

Seq Lo - it seems this is the sequence that kinda sounds like the dog breathing in the background.

Seq Hi - the standard DRSG lead we all know

 

To me theses are the twi samples of the loop, or a mix of both sequenced in one for intro and the other for the chorus (higher octave)

 

The dog breath is just the delay on Olli's bass

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Just now, Atomiiik said:

 

To me theses are the twi samples of the loop, or a mix of both sequenced in one for intro and the other for the chorus (higher octave)

 

The dog breath is just the delay on Olli's bass

Nope, it is not that. I should have recorded a video instead of a print, but during the pre-chorus, where the kinda dog breathing enters, the only tracks playing are the drum, bass, for the bass lead, and seq lo, which is played with a looot of notes. And in here they did not record the bass from Ollie yet, it was only midi stuff.

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il y a 11 minutes, DuduMil a dit :

Here's a video of that part for you guys to watch for yourselves:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xtUd65lcZJi3wN0cuRMzKW5-Q4steJXw/view?usp=sharing

Very useful:

At the marker: 6 tracks / 2 breaks on mute.

What I can hear:

Alesis drums (1), bassline (2), dog-bass (3 - seq lo), strange voice samples that goes: baaaah (should be break 2)

 

If the scene is not cut and the marker continues to run in real time, they probably demute the other two breaks (mellotron choir, the main sequence loop). Therefore we should find these patches in the Emu Emax

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By the way: This version has nothing to do with Der Riecher from 1994. The baaah sample has completely disappeared, the drum and bassline is much crisper in this recording session. Probably because Olli's real bass recording sounds a bit warmer and more natural and these hard industrial samples were later softened, deleted or mixed more quietly.

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Il y a 16 heures, mikelorenz a dit :

Wall Of Sound Vol.3/Best Of CMI    X/Digital Orch.

 

Synthesizer by Herzeleid, Laichzeit and Weisses Fleisch found on a Wall Of Sound CD

 

Herzeleid

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Yqqz3YlC5oIGhn1PdW8CcQ0MHajb4ztf/view?usp=drive_link

 

Laichzeit

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1j66SBTLTQ_KXsFErHMylJ1ysD7LcrgBb/view?usp=drive_link

 

Weisses Fleisch

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YvbjwWH5OUjoGD-VLeFzjvEiixz3B3rD/view?usp=drive_link

 

Just saw that it is in the 'Best of CMI' path. So it was originally a Fairlight CMI sample and Emax copied/emulated it?

 

 

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Wall Of Sound Vol.3/Analog Pads    X/Chor Orgel

 

I found this preset, It may be that (Orgel) is used to complement the chorus that is heard in the part where all the instruments stop playing. 
What do you think?

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ITTTrg_COvueHBwuXp7-HuSHFULC9UJL/view?usp=sharing

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I just noticed that the sweep pad in the Heeeeerzeleid scream part has a very similar characteristic to Chroman Inst with the necessary Ensoniq effects. Is it by any chance the same patch?

 

The LaB version sounds like the Rammstein Intro bell pad / Emeperor?!

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6 hours ago, mikelorenz said:

KORG M1/PROG/CARD/CARD 1/Voices

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Adjk_kKQXAjk6Y5uNRJnECTrP81IqQPw/view?usp=sharing

 

KORG M1/PROG/CARD/CARD 1/Angels

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/18dHsXTt4bOTP0qt3hcejx1c7p_IsXYp_/view?usp=sharing

 

Maybe some of these voices were used in weisses fleisch?

Flake did not use a Korg M1. To me it's from an AKAI library.

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Le 23/11/2024 à 04:12, TILDE a dit :

FAT HORNS by Omnisphere in Keine Lust Bridge Lead ?

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/15lkruqlwDAoWvmPsYwX8YAZJD8LbszlG/view?usp=drive_link

 

This fits pretty well, nice for covers for thoses who don't have an Ensoniq sampler but it's the known Alphorn sample ^_^

 

Flake Lorenz stuff, for Alle Jahre Wieder Flake sampled the Junge, Komm Bald Wieder song of Freddy Quinn

 

 

Also, the song Süßer die Glocken Nie Klingen contains speech samples of:

 

Walter Ulbricht (from 15 June 1961): Ich verstehe Ihre Frage so, dass es in Westdeutschland Menschen gibt, die wünschen, dass wir die Bauarbeiter der Hauptstadt der DDR dazu mobilisieren, eine Mauer aufzurichten.

Walter Ulbricht (from 15 June 1961): Niemand hat die Absicht, eine Mauer zu errichten.

John F. Kennedy (from 26 June 1963): Ich bin ein Berliner.

Erich Honecker (from 19 January 1989): Die Mauer wird in 50 und auch in 100 Jahren noch bestehen bleiben.

Monday demonstrations in East Germany in 1989/1990: Wir sind das Volk!

Günter Schabowski (9 November 1989): Das tritt nach meiner Kenntnis... ist das sofort, unverzüglich

Erich Mielke (from 13 November 1989): Ich liebe doch alle, alle Menschen ... Ich liebe doch, ich setze mich doch dafür ein.

 

Thanks to Rammwiki for this, i will add a new section and audios later today or this week-end.

 

Any guesses on the beat loop and exact Casiotone used here ?

 

 

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Flake add a game at this link: https://game.flake-feiert-weihnachten.de/

 

if you win the first place until the 23th december include, you win a signed christmas gift from him. By the way, is there any way to download the flash game to keep it even after the event ? I didn't found any way to do it, it's not synth related but a cool topic i think. Also, i would like to add it into my arcade game machine ^_^

 

I was just able to download the font from the game page, available here: Font

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Il y a 18 heures, Atomiiik a dit :

Flake add a game at this link: https://game.flake-feiert-weihnachten.de/

 

if you win the first place until the 23th december include, you win a signed christmas gift from him. By the way, is there any way to download the flash game to keep it even after the event ? I didn't found any way to do it, it's not synth related but a cool topic i think. Also, i would like to add it into my arcade game machine ^_^

 

I was just able to download the font from the game page, available here: Font

J'ai rien bité au jeu 😂

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il y a 47 minutes, TomR a dit :

J'ai rien bité au jeu 😂

 

Il faut faire le plus gros score, pour gagner il faut cumuler le plus de points en évitant tout ce qui tombe du ciel, au moindre coup la partie s'arrête mais il y a aussi des bonus:

 

Ces étoiles te donnent 100points:

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Ce bouclier te rends invulnérable au prochain coup que tu prendras uniquement:

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Ce panneau transforme la moto en traineau de Père Noël:

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Et c'est seulement dans ce cas tu peux ramasser les cadeaux ect... Qui tombent du ciel, ça donne pas mal de point dans cette phase. À la fin de la phase en traineau tu redeviens vulnérable au moindre coup jusqu'au prochain bonus de ce type, aussi la musique change quand tu est en traineau.

 

J'ai mis tous les assets images et audio du jeu ici ☺️

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