mustang29 247 Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 Mein teil solo is the same baby samples as Das Alte Leid song. i guess its also the same baby in Mutter. in my opinion its self recorded by Flake. The recording is not very clean, we can heard toys noises or something. Maybe a kid of his family or rammstein members ? Link to post Share on other sites
Rasputin 93 458 Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 I suspect it's Richard's recording of Khira. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
DuduMil 285 Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 18 minutes ago, Rasputin 93 said: I suspect it's Richard's recording of Khira. It is surely it, that's what I was thinking. Link to post Share on other sites
mikelorenz 94 Posted November 12 Share Posted November 12 Herzeleid main synthesizer present in an Emu Emax 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Atomiiik 2117 Posted November 14 Author Share Posted November 14 Le 13/11/2024 à 00:20, mikelorenz a dit : Herzeleid main synthesizer present in an Emu Emax I will get and share this preset pack soon Kraftwerk vibes 🤌 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mikelorenz 94 Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 (edited) Wall Of Sound Vol.3/Best Of CMI X/Digital Orch. Synthesizer by Herzeleid, Laichzeit and Weisses Fleisch found on a Wall Of Sound CD Herzeleid https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Yqqz3YlC5oIGhn1PdW8CcQ0MHajb4ztf/view?usp=drive_link Laichzeit https://drive.google.com/file/d/1j66SBTLTQ_KXsFErHMylJ1ysD7LcrgBb/view?usp=drive_link Weisses Fleisch https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YvbjwWH5OUjoGD-VLeFzjvEiixz3B3rD/view?usp=drive_link Edited November 15 by mikelorenz 4 Link to post Share on other sites
feuerfrei2008 21 Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 7 hours ago, mikelorenz said: Wall Of Sound Vol.3/Best Of CMI X/Digital Orch. Synthesizer by Herzeleid, Laichzeit and Weisses Fleisch found on a Wall Of Sound CD Herzeleid https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Yqqz3YlC5oIGhn1PdW8CcQ0MHajb4ztf/view?usp=drive_link Laichzeit https://drive.google.com/file/d/1j66SBTLTQ_KXsFErHMylJ1ysD7LcrgBb/view?usp=drive_link Weisses Fleisch https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YvbjwWH5OUjoGD-VLeFzjvEiixz3B3rD/view?usp=drive_link Maybe same in Eifersucht? Link to post Share on other sites
Hokkaido 241 Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 Il y a 9 heures, mikelorenz a dit : Wall Of Sound Vol.3/Best Of CMI X/Digital Orch. Synthesizer by Herzeleid, Laichzeit and Weisses Fleisch found on a Wall Of Sound CD Herzeleid https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Yqqz3YlC5oIGhn1PdW8CcQ0MHajb4ztf/view?usp=drive_link Laichzeit https://drive.google.com/file/d/1j66SBTLTQ_KXsFErHMylJ1ysD7LcrgBb/view?usp=drive_link Weisses Fleisch https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YvbjwWH5OUjoGD-VLeFzjvEiixz3B3rD/view?usp=drive_link Awesome sound snippets! So Wall of Sounds ripped it straight from an EMU Emax. Another CD that we've had for years 😅 I don't even want to know what else has been overheard 1 Link to post Share on other sites
DuduMil 285 Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 9 hours ago, mikelorenz said: Wall Of Sound Vol.3/Best Of CMI X/Digital Orch. Synthesizer by Herzeleid, Laichzeit and Weisses Fleisch found on a Wall Of Sound CD Herzeleid https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Yqqz3YlC5oIGhn1PdW8CcQ0MHajb4ztf/view?usp=drive_link Laichzeit https://drive.google.com/file/d/1j66SBTLTQ_KXsFErHMylJ1ysD7LcrgBb/view?usp=drive_link Weisses Fleisch https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YvbjwWH5OUjoGD-VLeFzjvEiixz3B3rD/view?usp=drive_link Sounds very close, but I do not think it is that one because they surely used an E-MU Emax in studio, as we can see in the Cubase arrangement of Riecher in the documentary "ACHTUNG! WIR KOMMEN". 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mustang29 247 Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 (edited) So it means there is a sample on the pré-chorus is made with emax? and the loop is made with and orgel on eps16 Edited November 15 by mustang29 Link to post Share on other sites
DuduMil 285 Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 2 minutes ago, mustang29 said: So it means there is a sample on the pré-chorus is made with emax? and the loop is made with and orgel on eps16 It seems that the orgel was used in the DER WANSEN part, maybe discarted. Link to post Share on other sites
Hokkaido 241 Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 Il y a 1 heure, DuduMil a dit : Sounds very close, but I do not think it is that one because they surely used an E-MU Emax in studio, as we can see in the Cubase arrangement of Riecher in the documentary "ACHTUNG! WIR KOMMEN". Damn! Good and clean screenshot! Drums - Alesis D4 Bass - Ensoniq EPS16 Breaks 1 - 3 - Emax Sequence Low - Ensoniq EPS16 Sequence High - Ensoniq EPS16 Orgel (Organ) - Ensoniq EPS16 Strings - Ensoniq EPS16 Sample? - Ensoniq EPS16 Track 8 - Emax Okay, let's compare Der Riecher and check EPS16 and Emax libraries 2 Link to post Share on other sites
DuduMil 285 Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 1 hour ago, Hokkaido said: Damn! Good and clean screenshot! Drums - Alesis D4 Bass - Ensoniq EPS16 Breaks 1 - 3 - Emax Sequence Low - Ensoniq EPS16 Sequence High - Ensoniq EPS16 Orgel (Organ) - Ensoniq EPS16 Strings - Ensoniq EPS16 Sample? - Ensoniq EPS16 Track 8 - Emax Okay, let's compare Der Riecher and check EPS16 and Emax libraries By analysing the arrange, this is my theory: Bass - of course, the bass lead. The breaks 1 and 3 are muted, only the 2 is triggered, and it seems that it is some kind of percussion, cause I am sure the track is called "breakbeat" Seq Lo - it seems this is the sequence that kinda sounds like the dog breathing in the background. Seq Hi - the standard DRSG lead we all know Orgel - Organ supporting the DRSG lead? Strings - the keyboard violins solo Sample - I think that these might be "Der Wansen" or "Ich finde dich" samples, or maybe it's the choir, because it enters the same time as the track. Track 8 - No idea, but it is muted anyways. Link to post Share on other sites
Atomiiik 2117 Posted November 15 Author Share Posted November 15 il y a 2 minutes, DuduMil a dit : Seq Lo - it seems this is the sequence that kinda sounds like the dog breathing in the background. Seq Hi - the standard DRSG lead we all know To me theses are the twi samples of the loop, or a mix of both sequenced in one for intro and the other for the chorus (higher octave) The dog breath is just the delay on Olli's bass Link to post Share on other sites
DuduMil 285 Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 Just now, Atomiiik said: To me theses are the twi samples of the loop, or a mix of both sequenced in one for intro and the other for the chorus (higher octave) The dog breath is just the delay on Olli's bass Nope, it is not that. I should have recorded a video instead of a print, but during the pre-chorus, where the kinda dog breathing enters, the only tracks playing are the drum, bass, for the bass lead, and seq lo, which is played with a looot of notes. And in here they did not record the bass from Ollie yet, it was only midi stuff. Link to post Share on other sites
DuduMil 285 Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 Here's a video of that part for you guys to watch for yourselves: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xtUd65lcZJi3wN0cuRMzKW5-Q4steJXw/view?usp=sharing 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Hokkaido 241 Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 (edited) il y a 11 minutes, DuduMil a dit : Here's a video of that part for you guys to watch for yourselves: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xtUd65lcZJi3wN0cuRMzKW5-Q4steJXw/view?usp=sharing Very useful: At the marker: 6 tracks / 2 breaks on mute. What I can hear: Alesis drums (1), bassline (2), dog-bass (3 - seq lo), strange voice samples that goes: baaaah (should be break 2) If the scene is not cut and the marker continues to run in real time, they probably demute the other two breaks (mellotron choir, the main sequence loop). Therefore we should find these patches in the Emu Emax Edited November 15 by Hokkaido 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Hokkaido 241 Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 By the way: This version has nothing to do with Der Riecher from 1994. The baaah sample has completely disappeared, the drum and bassline is much crisper in this recording session. Probably because Olli's real bass recording sounds a bit warmer and more natural and these hard industrial samples were later softened, deleted or mixed more quietly. Link to post Share on other sites
Hokkaido 241 Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 (edited) Il y a 16 heures, mikelorenz a dit : Wall Of Sound Vol.3/Best Of CMI X/Digital Orch. Synthesizer by Herzeleid, Laichzeit and Weisses Fleisch found on a Wall Of Sound CD Herzeleid https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Yqqz3YlC5oIGhn1PdW8CcQ0MHajb4ztf/view?usp=drive_link Laichzeit https://drive.google.com/file/d/1j66SBTLTQ_KXsFErHMylJ1ysD7LcrgBb/view?usp=drive_link Weisses Fleisch https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YvbjwWH5OUjoGD-VLeFzjvEiixz3B3rD/view?usp=drive_link Just saw that it is in the 'Best of CMI' path. So it was originally a Fairlight CMI sample and Emax copied/emulated it? Edited November 15 by Hokkaido Link to post Share on other sites
mikelorenz 94 Posted November 16 Share Posted November 16 (edited) Wall Of Sound Vol.3/Analog Pads X/Chor Orgel I found this preset, It may be that (Orgel) is used to complement the chorus that is heard in the part where all the instruments stop playing. What do you think? https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ITTTrg_COvueHBwuXp7-HuSHFULC9UJL/view?usp=sharing Edited November 16 by mikelorenz Link to post Share on other sites
Hokkaido 241 Posted November 16 Share Posted November 16 (edited) I just noticed that the sweep pad in the Heeeeerzeleid scream part has a very similar characteristic to Chroman Inst with the necessary Ensoniq effects. Is it by any chance the same patch? The LaB version sounds like the Rammstein Intro bell pad / Emeperor?! Edited November 16 by Hokkaido 1 Link to post Share on other sites
DuduMil 285 Posted November 16 Share Posted November 16 2 hours ago, Hokkaido said: Is it by any chance the same patch? Not really, in my opinion it is a transwave sample from Waveboy Effects. Link to post Share on other sites
Stefano 31 Posted November 17 Share Posted November 17 (edited) Hi guys, I have uploaded a new videos of weisess fleisch on my youtube channel, hope you like it, and I would to thank dead_insider who helped me to create the arp sound. Edited November 17 by Stefano 2 Link to post Share on other sites
mikelorenz 94 Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 KORG M1/PROG/CARD/CARD 1/Voices https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Adjk_kKQXAjk6Y5uNRJnECTrP81IqQPw/view?usp=sharing KORG M1/PROG/CARD/CARD 1/Angels https://drive.google.com/file/d/18dHsXTt4bOTP0qt3hcejx1c7p_IsXYp_/view?usp=sharing Maybe some of these voices were used in weisses fleisch? Link to post Share on other sites
mikelorenz 94 Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 Alpine Volksmusik Vol.1/AKKORDEON A1/HOHNER APL Accordion used in (Moskau) on the Ahoir Tour? https://drive.google.com/file/d/1f0i4dkmL-hWKAl-cm9S5pUJO9R76EjKj/view?usp=sharing 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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